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![]() Photograph by Paul Nann 95-02-23; RUSSIA TO BUY UKRAINIAN BOMBERS 95-03-16; UKRAINE TO SELL BOMBERS TO RUSSIA AT BARGAIN PRICE However, Russia plans to purchase 10 Tu-160s and 15 Tu-95MS were scrapped on June 19, 1997 when Russian air force commander-in-chief, Petr Deynekin ruled out buying strategic bombers from Ukraine. Deynekin said "... the strategic bombers are in such an extremely poor condition that they could hardly be used". Additional report said that RusAF own Blackjacks are in rather poor condition. Strategic Air Force was "on the brink of crisis", with its combat readiness at only 50% while 70% of Russia's Tu-160 Blackjacks needed major repairs. What exactly 70% out of five aircraft represent, the report failed to mention.
From: (KavanaghNY) How does the Russian 'Blackjack' bomber compare to the B-1? How many 'Blackjacks' were built?.....does anyone one no of any web pages, ftp sites or books where I can find more info on the 'Blackjack'? and one more thing; Tu-???.
From: ssampson@icon.net (Steve Sampson) The Blackjack does not have even half the bomb load capability of the B-1. Check Janes out. It is real shocking how limited the payload is. But I must say, that the presence of the plane made Iceland Defense Forces (IDF) obsolete. The plane could be within nuclear missle range (even without cutting across Norway) faster than the E-3 and F-15's could scramble and intercept it. Now that's power projection! Thankfully we still only saw Bear, Bison and May aircraft in the MADIZ. The May (probably akin to the P-3) was real good at laying down chaff corridors. We thought it was a big weather system before finally figuring it out :-)
From: amraam@netcom.com (Robin J. Lee) Incidentally, the Blackjack is notorious for being unreliable and generally defective. The two that they scraped up as display craft for Secretary Carlucci's visit to the Soviet Union in 1988 both suffered engine failures and wound up flying on three engines instead of four. Loud reports of every equipment failure imaginable were heard, including ejection seat problems. It seems that the Blackjack remains a premature aircraft; that could explain the retention of cruise-missile-armed Tu-95MSs in the strategic aviation inventory until they get all the bugs ironed out. An interesting aside is that the newly appointed Soviet Air Force commander (a strategic aviation pilot himself with over 4,000 hours in Backfires and Blackjacks) tried to keelhaul Tupolev officials for delivering a defective product that hadn't been fully tested before being dumped into service. This was during the heady days of late-stage glasnost; there was a big scandal, flight safety issues came to the fore, etc. Not sure if it went any further, though -- the Tu-160s are still in the inventory.
From: mstucka@orion.it.luc.edu (Mike Stucka) In theory, they had gotten most of the bugs worked out. The Tu-160 project was derived in very large part from the Tu-144SST ("Concordski"), which was known for its failures. Like the tires -- lots of 'em, too -- lasted just a few landings, or shall we mention the one that literally fell apart in air at the Paris Air Show? If you want more info, look for "Soviet SST" by Howard Moon. Not sure what happened with it, but a year or two ago the Ukraine was looking to sell theirs.
From: agretch@aeroweb.lucia.it (Alexei B. Gretchikhine) AFAK, There are only handfull of these beasts in the inventory of DA. Actually, most of them were kept by Ukraine (16 a/c) and Russian AF has only 2. Ukraine wants to pay off its oil debt by selling these (plus few more Tu-95MS) to Russia. I am not sure if deal took place yet. I agree that Tu-160 is known for its bugs, but guy's look at B-1. People in this group were b*ching how unreliable Lancer is. Crews hate to fly Tu-160. Maintenance people do to. I am surprised though, that Tu-160 has a smaller payload than B-1. It is much larger a/c afterall. I don't think there is much in common between Tu-144 and Tu-160. They even use different engines. I would not deny that flight hours accumulated on SST helped in design of BlackJack, but this is probably about it. BTW, Tu-144 was FIRST SST to fly. It fell apart on the Paris AirShow because it departed its flight envelop (due to copilot leaning on the yoke). It is fine a/c.
From: mstucka@orion.it.luc.edu (Mike Stucka) The TU-144 used turbojet engines of questionable quality and vintage... the Blackjack uses Soloviev turbofans, I believe. I assume since it's top speed is purported to be slightly higher than that of the B1-B that these are pretty powerful, however their maintenance record I do not know, although the bomber is purported to be a fine plane in most respects.
From: m_cram@trofs.enet.dec.com (Marshall Cram) The Tu-160 Blackjack uses the new, three-shaft Kuznetsov NK-321. It's an afterburning turbofan of 55,115 lbs. thrust. The Tu-144 used the Kuznetsov NK-144 (38,580 lbs.), NK-144A (44,092 lb.), and the NK-144B (48,500 lb.) progressively. Two-shaft afterburning turbofans. The Tu-22M Backfire engine, the Kuznetsov NK-22, has the same thrust and fan diameter as the NK-144B Tu-144 engine, indicating they were the same essential design, and that they must have got a fairly reliable, if thirsty, engine in the end.
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Sources: Aviation Week and Space Technology Aug 15,1988, p. 16-18; Aug 8,1988, p. 14-15; May 16,1988, p. 50-55; May 9,1988, p. 43-45; Aug 24, 1992, p.65. | |
